jt
I have been studying with a jw for almost 4 years and I have many EXJW friends
Does that help?
It does say all welcome at the top of the page.
D Dog
in the world today (especially in america) we believe that we can do what ever we want or will to do, but god still rules the universe, and according to his word there are some things that we can not do.
unless god wills!
i thought i might list a few things that (unaided by or apart from god) we can not do.
jt
I have been studying with a jw for almost 4 years and I have many EXJW friends
Does that help?
It does say all welcome at the top of the page.
D Dog
in the world today (especially in america) we believe that we can do what ever we want or will to do, but god still rules the universe, and according to his word there are some things that we can not do.
unless god wills!
i thought i might list a few things that (unaided by or apart from god) we can not do.
Adam
Did you look up the verses?
in the world today (especially in america) we believe that we can do what ever we want or will to do, but god still rules the universe, and according to his word there are some things that we can not do.
unless god wills!
i thought i might list a few things that (unaided by or apart from god) we can not do.
Adam
Let's assume that athiests and agnostics can do good without god.Observations:
1. The above statement is false.
2. The above statement came from the bible.
3. 4) We can not hear his word. John 8:43,47
in the world today (especially in america) we believe that we can do what ever we want or will to do, but god still rules the universe, and according to his word there are some things that we can not do.
unless god wills!
i thought i might list a few things that (unaided by or apart from god) we can not do.
Bendrr
We can indeed "do good". There's far too many agnostics, atheists, and various other non-christians out there proving you wrong every day.
Like I said, you're not proving me wrong, and what I think doesn't really matter. But if God is the sorce of all that is good, wouldn't that make them (the agnostics, atheists, and various other non-christians out there) self righteous?
D Dog
in the world today (especially in america) we believe that we can do what ever we want or will to do, but god still rules the universe, and according to his word there are some things that we can not do.
unless god wills!
i thought i might list a few things that (unaided by or apart from god) we can not do.
Everyone Please feel free to disagree. But realize this, I'm just quoting the Bible. Is anyone looking up the scriptures? I didn't say these things God did!
in the world today (especially in america) we believe that we can do what ever we want or will to do, but god still rules the universe, and according to his word there are some things that we can not do.
unless god wills!
i thought i might list a few things that (unaided by or apart from god) we can not do.
In the world today (especially in America) we believe that we can do what ever we want or will to do, but God still rules the universe, and according to his word there are some things that we can not do. Unless God wills! I thought I might list a few things that (unaided by or apart from God) we can not do. 1) We can not seek God. Romans 3:11 2) We can not do good. Romans 3:12 Psalm 14:3 3) We can not come to Christ. John 6:44, 65 4) We can not hear his word. John 8:43,47 5) We can not receive the Comforter or Spirit of truth. John 14:17 6) We can not receive the teaching of the Holy Ghost. 1Corinthians 2:14 7) We can not submit to God's law. Romans 8:7 8) We can not please God. Romans 8:8 9) We can not cease from sin. Romans 7:19 10) We can not say that Jesus is the Lord. 1Corinthians 12:3 We may not like it but, without God we have no hope! I know there are more. Can you think of any? Deputy Dog
the gospel of salvation -- the good news of jesus christ:
plain and simple, according to the holy scriptures
if you have any questions or comments, please e-mail me at [email protected].
Hi, Un Disfellowshipped
You said:
Romans 2:4-5 shows that a person CAN reject God's kindness, forbearance, and longsuffering, and can choose NOT to repent, even though God wants him to.
I can agree with part of your statement "a person CAN reject God's kindness, forbearance, and longsuffering, and can choose NOT to repent". Acts 7:51 says exactly what I believe! "You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit; as your fathers did, you also do."
Untouched or unaided by God a person will always reject God's kindness, forbearance, and longsuffering, and can and always will choose NOT to repent".
You go on to say:
God DESIRES that ALL MEN should be saved! Therefore, anyone who is not saved, does so against the desire of God.
If these verses are to be applied the way you suggest, we have a problem. This would mean that God is not ruling the universe, and is, or can be frustrated by the "will" of man. That doesn't sound all powerful to me.
It is much easier for me to apply those verses like this:
(1Ti 2:4) who desires all men to be saved and to come to the full knowledge of the truth.
(1Ti 2:5) For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus,
(1Ti 2:6) who gave Himself a ransom for all, the testimony in due time;
All the men that God desires to be saved, will be saved, proof coming in due time.
Next you say: Jesus is the Propitiation for the WHOLE WORLD'S SINS!
Again I would urge caution, that statement could suggest that the whole world is saved, and I know you don't believe that. I ask you. How do you apply this verse? 1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.
Finally Don't confuse Calvinism with Hyper-Calvinism which is what appears to be happening.
Thank you for your time
Deputy Dog
the gospel of salvation -- the good news of jesus christ:
plain and simple, according to the holy scriptures
if you have any questions or comments, please e-mail me at [email protected].
Hey, UnDisfellowhsipped
Are you going to Blue Mountain PA in October?
Deputy Dog
the gospel of salvation -- the good news of jesus christ:
plain and simple, according to the holy scriptures
if you have any questions or comments, please e-mail me at [email protected].
LT
You paraphrased 2.Tim.3:16.
I did? Where? I remember commenting when ellderwho did. Oh well, I believe it anyway
There's even passages that argue for unicorns (Job. 39:9; Ps.92:10)
But you've got to be King James only.
Deputy Dog
the gospel of salvation -- the good news of jesus christ:
plain and simple, according to the holy scriptures
if you have any questions or comments, please e-mail me at [email protected].
Little toe
When I said:
But I dont think that interpretation has that much to do with Gods sovereignty
I was talking about this
Both viewpoints, and everything in between can be argued from scripture. It's all in the interpretation.Sorry D Dog